Livin Lite pop up series - wha happened????

[pollystyrene]

I was looking at pop ups and they were all so heavy (all I can tow is 2000lb all in) ... and after a gruesome search heard about the livin lite pop up which gives me the 2 beds, dining area and a fridge. I also wanted the outdoor shower.  now I hear it's discontinued?  What's the story?  ffs.  was it a safety issue?  if you ask me it was bad marketing because those mini teardrop beds on wheels are not substitutes. 

[Merlin]

Others on here may chime in with more details, but the short story is that LivinLite was purchased by Thor Industries a few years ago and then killed off. It was a sad day for us all when the Camplite/Quicksilver/etc. models ended production with the demise of LivinLite. On the plus side, they hold up well and if you can find a well cared for used one it can be a good value.

[Steve Sanders]

The most active owner community that I'm aware of is the Livin' Lite Quicksilver Tent Camper Owner's Group on Facebook. It's not unusual to see campers for sale and wanted there.

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[GrampaKilt]

Ah, Poly...sad story
About 2014, the original owner of and creative force behind LL took an offer to good to refuse from Thor industries, a massive RV conglomerate known to cheapen any RV brand they purchase (except perhaps Airstream, it was too iconic?). Thor really misjudged what made LL special and by 2018, they had run the brand into the ground. Serves them right but we who have pre-Thor LL products lament the demise of an RV so unique in the usual world of North American heavy and cheaply built RVs. I myself purchased a 2014 Camplite 14' TT with an incredible dry wt of 2200 lbs for the express purpose of towing it with my VW Jetta TDI (equipped with a wt distribution hitch). The trailer will outlast me and well into the next generation. Regards, GK

[DavidM]

Livin' Lite trailers were a unique brand. They were all aluminum frame, superstructure, roof and floor and high quality composite Azdel paneling. They were impervious to corrosion and rot and would last a lifetime as opposed to other wood framed trailers that would be a mess of rot after ten years. They had a rugged, industrial look that some liked, some didn't. But they were strong and held up over time.

Thor did run them into the ground. Most of their changes after purchasing the brand from the founder Scott Tuttle were for the worse: rubber roofs and fiberglass side panels. The composite floors got mixed reviews: corrosion and rot proof but flexed a little underfoot. But it was really the dramatic departure from Tuttle's all aluminum/Azdel vision that killed the brand whether the changes were tolerable or not.

David

[Pinstriper]

The old school LL's were so well made that you could clean the inside with a pressure washer and dry it out with a leaf blower with no concern for any damage from wet wood.

Even the frame was aluminum.

Sadly, they were very costly to build, as welding aluminum is a black belt skill set among welders and they are paid accordingly.

We started seeing steel undercarriages, fiberglass sides, rubber roofs, wood cabinets (doh!) and a shift from dual axles to singles.

The 14DBS I recently sold was under 2500# dry, 3500# fully loaded to the gills, and had TWO 3500# axles. They were overkilled on the engineering, which made them great. The last versions of the same model were 500# heavier, with only a single axle that was almost at limit, DRY before batteries, propane, personal effects, and food, with empty tanks.

The price was raised from already high levels at the same time, and they shut the brand down after another year or two.


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[Apollo]

(except perhaps Airstream, it was too iconic?).

Airstreams are overpriced JUNK. Lippert metal frames, chipboard floors, typical shoddy RV construction. Go read a bit on the AirForums, what thor has actually done is convince people Airstreams are quality and worth the high price when nothing could be further from the truth.

I owned 2010 QS 10.0 and it was a sweet little camper, now I have a 2016 21 BHS (last of the all aluminum) and it is an amazing camper for sure.