Shower drains into black tank

[Paul]

I found the FB page very active but I don't like the way it works. You can't easily tell if a new thread has new message. Sometime I find myself reading a interesting topic and just find out way later that there was new answer to it. Sometime I read something interesting and I have a hard time to find it again. On this forum I read everything that is posted and I know what I have read and what is new, I can't tell that on Facebook.

I found a forum better structured than FaceBook. As for the LL official forum I found that it is not looked after they don't delete Spam Bot messages and is less active than this forum but I go check it once in a while.

The only reason why I check the FB one is because it is active and have some interesting topic but I prefer the structure of this forum.

[Gary M]

I agree on a lot of that Paul. I'm an oldschool DIY forum guy myself, but it seems like a lot of these new owners prefer facebook due to it's ease of use on a mobile phone. I personally think it's easier to navigate facebook than a forum on my iPhone. I just use the search function on FB when I'm looking for an answer to something, or an old post with some DIY info on it.

Typically the best DIY info comes from this website though for sure. A lot of the FB posts are pictures of trailers/camping and such, but i enjoy looking at those as well. It's cool to see everyone's setup, and how they use their camplites.

I link these forums on the FB group now and then, but I doubt half the new owners have come here, or even realize it exists.

[Paul]

This forum is enabled with Tapatalk you should try it it make it very mobile friendly! I also enjoy reading from the Facebook group but would prefer if those topic were all posted here instead . I guess there is pro and cons to either option

[Gary M]

I'll try tapatalk, I've heard of it, but never used it.

I'll also keep telling the Facebook group to check out this site, because yea.. the other Livin Lite forums seems dead. Hardly anyone posts on there.

I posted a lot of my mods on the Facebook group before coming here. I had previously thought that this was a dead forum as well, but I was apparently wrong

I'll post some of those mods on here too.

[Paul]

Yes this thread was really active! Thank you for sharing it here!

[alazear]

I have a 2018 LL 21 BHS Platinum w/off road package.  The tag on the side list the manufacture date as 11/2017.

I just tested my shower and it definitely drains into the gray tank as it should.  Lucky on the production line I guess.  I've pulled the underbelly recently for other reasons and the black tank is furthest back, then the gray, then the fresh.  Each are separated by a cross frame member of about 2 x 7" or so.

Here are a couple pictures taken a few minutes ago from the roof to show the vent stacks.  I hope this helps Gary M. in some way or others with this issue.

Adam

[Gary M]

Mine was completed 15Dec2017. So I guess mine was one of the first, if not THE first to have the new design. Lucky you, you beat the design change by a month!

Adam do you happen to know your tank sizes? I'm going to do the bucket test on mine this week to confirm, but mine are listed as black:36,fresh:25.gray:25

[Gary M]

Wasn't able to reach the gray tank from underneath without having to cut the coroplast underbelly around the drain pipes. Decided to just go with the other plan of installing the bulkhead fitting topside near the furnace. So furnace is removed, old drain is capped off and I'm waiting on new parts to come in now..

[nhlakes]

I'll try tapatalk, I've heard of it, but never used it.

I'll also keep telling the Facebook group to check out this site, because yea.. the other Livin Lite forums seems dead. Hardly anyone posts on there.

I posted a lot of my mods on the Facebook group before coming here. I had previously thought that this was a dead forum as well, but I was apparently wrong

I'll post some of those mods on here too.

I'm an old forums guy.  I started an owners group 15+ years ago, got thousands of members, had to recruit volunteers as co-moderators, had rallies, vendor support, etc.  I eventually handed it off after a bunch of years as it was a distraction from my real job. 

I have a number forums I follow with Tapatalk, works great.   I'm not a facebook guy either, but started logging on just to monitor the LL owners facebook group. Which other than Gary's posts is pretty much typical fb.  Although it is fun to see pics of Camplites camping, which we don't see much here - but, regardless,  I much prefer the structure of forms.   

I'm Don Mac over there.

Gary, I really enjoy seeing you rip apart and rebuilding that brand new camper.  I have never seen someone buy an expensive toy and dismantle it so quickly.   It's fun to watch.

[Gary M]

Haha.. Thanks Don! I apreciate the motivation. I needed something to keep me busy after retiring this year. Before buying this trailer, I knew I would be tearing this thing up to customize it, and make it my own. I did the same in the past with new boats, and vehicles that I bought. I was the type of kid that would take things apart just to see how they worked

Starting to run out of mods to do, but new ideas pop up every day. Theater seats to replace the dinette, and better sound system are being planned.

[Gary M]

Hard part is over. I hooked up the hevpo to the tubing and put the shower tub back in temporarily(no mounting screws yet) to hook up the drain.

Then I drilled a 4" hole in the floor. The fitting required a 1-3/4" hole, but I needed room around the base of the fitting to hold the washer to tighten the nut. 4 inches ended up being the perfect size. Drilling this hole was by far the most nerve racking step of this entire job!

One thing to note.. start your drill in reverse to get through the laminated tile. Mine skipped and gouged the area around it. Not to worried because it will all be hidden. The other thing to be careful of, is going too deep with the 4" cut. My hole saw was 2" deep which is the same as the floor thickness, and I should have stopped after it bottomed out. Instead, I pried off the top layer of azdel to get deeper, and ended up gouging the top of the gray tank about 1/8" deep. Luckily it didn't go though, but it scared me at first glance. the tank wall thickness is 1/4" and it sits flush against the bottom of the floor.

The bulkhead fitting installed with no issues. It's pricey, but it's a great design. Now I'm just waiting on a heat sleeve for the tubing, and a swivel to barb fitting to get delivered. I felt the area behind the furnace, and it doesn't get hot at all while running. Probably won't even need the heat sleeve, but I'll feel better with it on. Here's some pics...   

[Gary M]

Ah the smell of sweet success

My 500 degree heat sleeve came in today (even though it probably didn't need it), and I finished up the plumbing. Secured the tubing with plastic plumbers tape, and a zip tie to keep it in place and maintain the downward slope.

Happy to say it worked flawlessly, and didn't leak a drop anywhere. Ran the shower hose without the head on until the gray tank was full, and then filled up the tub. Let it sit for while to leak check and its good to go.

Now I just have to wire up a 4 way trailer connector for the furnace, so I can remove it easier later on for maintenance/cleaning, and seal up the shower. Here's a pic of how it ended up..

[nhlakes]

Awesome work!  It's apparently time to learn how to weld aluminum so you can start add a new slide or something.

[Merlin]

I'm so glad it worked! You're one-step-at-a-time problem solving and willingness to post it all on the forum get you into the "mod hall of fame" as far as I'm concerned.  Now go enjoy the camper!   

[GrampaKilt]

GaryM is a shoo-in for getting elected to the 'mod hall of fame' in his first year of eligibility. I'm exhausted just reading about it! GK