Coupler Replacement Side Bolts

Started by charliem, February 21, 2024, 10:22:42 PM

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charliem

I've included a few pictures of the replacement coupler with added side bolts. The MSWord document describes some of the detail.

CharlieCoupler Solution 2.JPGCoupler Solution 2.JPGCouper Solution 1.JPGCoupler Solution 3.JPGCoupler Solution.docx
Any 20 minute job can be stretched to a week with proper planning

Charlie
Northern Colorado
2014 21RBS
2013 Tacoma supercharged 4.0L V6
E2 WDH, P3 controller

djsamuel

Charlie,

Thanks for this info.  I was just thinking of this the other day.  I'm still on the 2" original hitch with the added side bolts that Don sent me.  After 11 years now, just want to be ready in case I need to make a change and this is a big help.

Doug

RV Squirrel

Charlie,
Thanks for sharing!  Merlin had mentioned that you had put bolts on the side, but I had imagined that they were further back, near where the vertical bolts were.  I like that since the holes are closer to the front, you only had to drill half-way through the aluminum frame, and that you could reach inside and insert to get to the end of the bolt that was inside the frame. 

Thanks for the detail that you provided in the MSWord document as well.  You didn't mention any spongey tape in it, so I assume that you did not have any in your original install, and/or that you did not care to replace it.  It looks like the coupler is zinc-coated... if you got it from LL, then I take it that they think that it is okay to mount a zinc-coated coupler directly onto an aluminum frame.  If I'm missing something, please say so.  Thanks again!

charliem

Squirrel,

The idea was to get the side bolts as far forward of the point of maximum bend as possible. That point is just forward of the vertical through bolts so the side bolts needed to be as far forward as possible. The access inside the frame was an added benefit.

I think the replacement coupler did come from LivinLoite. They were already using it, with side bolts, on their larger trailers. It's been a while but I think I remember the spongy strips. With the zinc plating and the other aluminum to steel contacts of the bolts I think I ignored it. I don't think it will be an issue.  The reason LL originally used the bolt on coupler is they could not find a strong aluminum weld on coupler. They needed the strength of steel but you cannot weld steel to aluminum. I think the spongy strips were just a cautionary measure (good practice, why not) but not really needed.
Any 20 minute job can be stretched to a week with proper planning

Charlie
Northern Colorado
2014 21RBS
2013 Tacoma supercharged 4.0L V6
E2 WDH, P3 controller

charliem

On second thought, I may have used a foam tape from the auto supply store. Thinking would have been: Doesn't cost much and better safe than sorry. Memory fades with age  ;D
Any 20 minute job can be stretched to a week with proper planning

Charlie
Northern Colorado
2014 21RBS
2013 Tacoma supercharged 4.0L V6
E2 WDH, P3 controller

RV Squirrel

I should have thought of going to an auto parts store!  After reading this post, I went to an Advance Auto and bought "nitrile camper tape".  It was a little wider and thicker that what was originally used, but I used a C-clamp to compress the foam a bit while I drilled the holes.

I finished drilling the holes for vertical bolts.  At this time, I think that I will refrain from drilling the holes for the horizontal bolts that you (Charlie) used.  This may be a good idea, but at this time I'm leery of drilling additional holes in the frame.  If I have problems again in the future, it is a comforting thought that I can use this approach.

I hope to finish tomorrow or Monday.  I'll post pictures when it's done.  I'll probably post them in my original post to close it out.

Thanks for the help, Charlie!

charliem

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Quote from: RV Squirrel on February 24, 2024, 10:51:38 PMI finished drilling the holes for vertical bolts.  At this time, I think that I will refrain from drilling the holes for the horizontal bolts that you (Charlie) used.  This may be a good idea, but at this time I'm leery of drilling additional holes in the frame.  If I have problems again in the future, it is a comforting thought that I can use this approach.

Adding holes near the end and near the vertical center of the frame is zero risk. There is essentially no stress in the frame member forward of the coupler. Note that once the coupler begins to bend such that you can see it it will be almost impossible to straighten it. You will be back to starting over with a new coupler.
Any 20 minute job can be stretched to a week with proper planning

Charlie
Northern Colorado
2014 21RBS
2013 Tacoma supercharged 4.0L V6
E2 WDH, P3 controller

RV Squirrel

Yes... I agree that it is a small risk.  I also agree that it's not likely that I'll be able to "fix" the coupler once it shows signs of fatigue.  If the problem comes back, I'll install a new coupler with the additional horizontal bolts.  Thanks again.