Aluminum Camper Forum

Wow!

The only liquids I had were bottled water that were in the cooler strapped to the back. Half of my 4 hr drive is on roads with 65-70 mph speed zones. The trailer tires are rated at 75 mph, so I maintained speed limits, lol. But, I do thank you for pointing out that wind speeds at this temp tend to really drop the interior temps to ambient quickly, that is good information for everybody.

Lily, my QS is a 2018 model with the composite floor so floor temps aren't quite as severe as with the aluminum floor, they actually have an R value of 9. None the less, I do have a carpet if for no other reason than aesthetics.

I just got back from a Jeep event here in NC and I dragged my QS 6.0 along for lodging. I setup in Arrowhead CG in Uwharrie National Forest so I had power hookups and a bath house. It was about 46 degrees when I setup and all went smoothly. It was the first time with a popupgizmo and an awning, so there was some delay figuring out what was going on with all that. The awning is pretty straight forward, but the PUG was a little more of an issue. It's a slippery beast, so the best move is to alternate sides / corners when first lashing it on. That is going to be a trick if it's windy too. None the less, I was all setup in about an hour and a half by myself. I have a Lasko 1500w ceramic heater and an electric blanket. The heater on high is almost too much heat so I ran it on low for the duration.

The first night was high 20's-low 30's, when I crawled out of the camper at 7:30 it was 30 degrees outside. I was very comfortable that night, actually having to turn the blanket down.

The second night was colder and breezy, and that made a difference inside, not drastic, but I did put the blanket on high with an additional blanket to keep comfortable. It was 25 degrees outside when I crawled out of the camper. I think if I had bunk liners that would have eliminated the need for the supplemental blanket. It was only 26 when I struck camp. I left the heater on until the last moment to keep the vinyl as pliable as possible, but it was still very stiff to fold down. I was worried about the windows mostly, but she tucked in ok.

I'm not sure I want to do this solo again when it's so cold, a second set of hands would have been very helpful. The camper can be a 4 season camper, but is probably best suited to 3 seasons, just worried about the windows cracking when it's so cold out.

I usually solo camp. Not because I want to, but we have a pack of dogs. Too expensive to board them, not bringing them with us, finding a sitter is a no go because of special needs. So we (the spouse and I) take separate vacations for now. The 6.0 checks off a lot of boxes for me, primarily it's light weight and simplicity. No more sleeping on the ground for me, I'm getting too old for that crap!

Thanks Entropy3XD. I've watched your videos which had me looking closer at things. Fortunately, the 6.0 is quite different in construction, so most of your issues are non-starters in mine. We do share the Azdel panels on the walls and floor. The walls are so low that I couldn't imagine trying to secure anything to them anyway. I guess there are the 3M command hooks if I feel the need to hang something up. So far, even with just a few glitches, I love this 6.0.

My impulse is to attach right to the frame. I wouldn't try to sink a screw into the floor myself, but I know that is what th dealer will do.

It is kind of a drag that there isn't more chatter, but I do realize it's winter lol. I will be camping on New Years weekend and maybe again in Feb. Gotta love the south. At any rate, I don't think I can make a Canada trip this year. I have to plan my vacation time around the Jeep events I attend or work, as well as my annual 4th of July and Thanksgiving trips.

Thank you for that info. I guess that cardboard looking material is the Azdel then. If that is the case then the floor should not be of concern. I think I would still have preferred the aluminum plank floor, but I hate being the guinea pig, lol. It looks like Lamilux has been in the RV flooring business for awhile too, so I get the warm fuzzy on that. I guess the bright spot is the increased R-value of the floor over aluminum. As far as fasteners, I suppose a drywall anchor would work.

I have a 2018 QS 6.0 with the composite floor. I didn't realize at the time that it had the "new" floor and not the aluminum planking. That really doesn't concern me too much other than there is no long term, real life reviews of the composite floor. Entropy3XD has some youtube videos showing some issues with his QS 8.0 and outlines current issues with his unit to include the floor. Maybe he will comment At any rate, I am not upset about the new floor yet, mine is rock solid with no spongy feeling anywhere, probably because I don't have any large unsupported spans because of the compact nature or the 6.0. I am however not sold on the longevity of the floor. One of the layers on the bottom seems to be made of cardboard, and we all know that isn't going to holdup to any moisture. I believe there is a layer of fiberglass above that then a thick foam layer and who knows what else. Structurally I believe that this floor, when supported correctly, should last a lifetime. I do foresee the outer/bottom layer suffering some kind of delamination because of the cardboard component sandwiched in there. I don't think there is any fear of rot beyond that however, so I don't really fear falling out the bottom of my camper. It would be nice if LL warrantied the floor for say 10 years instead of the factory normal.

Also, not a fan of how the wiring is supported under the floor. I have 2 cable clamps that are just hanging on the cable bundles because the screws holding them to the floor pulled out. There isn't sufficient structure on the bottom of the floor to support the strain of cables clamped on with a sheet metal screw. The dealer is going to look at that, but we know they are just going to sink another screw in there.  Why not just screw them right to the frame?

It's quite sad really. This line of campers offers something different from most of the others and having that factory sponsored site was a brilliant idea that could have been a value added selling point. Lost opportunity for Livin Lite in my opinion.

The advantage of a larger tire / wheel is fewer RPM's, essentially easier on the hub bearings. The tires on the off road package are indeed more aggressive than a similar sized road tire, but at 50 psi I doubt very much that there is much difference in rolling resistance.

I met a guy camping last week that bought the exact same QS 6.0 off road edition that I did from the same RV center under the same circumstances (we both bought on a whim while en-route to go Jeeping) only he bought his a month before me. He was just so happening to stay at the same CG as me last week. We had a laugh at the dealership because of this guy doing the same as me only a month earlier, and he and I did the same laugh at the CG. We exchanged info and have been talking via text ever since in regards to Jeeps and the QS. An interesting thing, I decided to weigh the tongue of my camper this morning using the non-scientific method of a bathroom scale. The tongue really seems heavy to me and the scale confirmed it at 256 lbs! The only thing I have inside is a 10X10 popup awning, it does have a battery on the front as well. I texted him with my finding and through discussion realized the the sticker inside the door has different weights between mine and his. His sticker says the UVW is 780 lbs with a tongue weight of 140 lbs. mine says UVW of 840 with a tongue weight of 160 lbs. We both have A/C and a spare tire and everything else is literally exactly the same, including the color. They were even built within a month of each other. Why is there a 60 pound overall difference and a 20 pound tongue weight difference?