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Livin Lite Forum => Camplite and Bearcat Travel Trailers => Topic started by: steve441 on October 21, 2015, 12:32:23 PM

Title: electric brakes
Post by: steve441 on October 21, 2015, 12:32:23 PM
i just got a 13 bhb do i really need brake assist a freand of mine has a 21 ft he says he never uses his
Title: Re: electric brakes
Post by: Paul on October 21, 2015, 12:41:57 PM
Hi Steve441, Welcome to the forum! I have a 13QBB and I do use the electric brake and I feel that they are needed. Loaded my trailer probably weight close to 3000lbs and I don't think my escape can manage to stop that load easily and safely. There was one time I had forgotten to plug my electric brake and at a stop sign I could feel the difference and had a harder time to stop. Please be safe and use your electrical brake, also you should tell your friend he should also be using his electrical brake.
Title: Re: electric brakes
Post by: rideandfly on October 21, 2015, 01:32:12 PM
Welcome Steve!

I tow a CampLite 11 and have had two emergency stop situations, if I did not have trailer brakes, probably would have had a accident.

Installed tow hitch, 7 pin connector, and brake controller on my Frontier in one afternoon. It's working great, too!

http://livinliteforum.com/index.php/topic,40.0.html
Title: Re: electric brakes
Post by: rideandfly on October 21, 2015, 01:41:41 PM
Here's a site with trailer laws:

http://trailers.com/state-laws/

Here's what they say about North Carolina requirements where I live:

"North Carolina Trailer Brake Laws"

"Every semitrailer, trailer, or separate vehicle attached by a drawbar or coupling to a towing vehicle of at least 4,000 lbs., and every house trailer weighing at least 1,000 lbs., shall be equipped with brakes controlled or operated by the driver of the towing vehicle". 
Title: Re: electric brakes
Post by: steve441 on October 21, 2015, 04:16:46 PM
 :) thanks for your imput i just sold my t@b { great little camper} never new it was behind me ! and up graded.  i  am picking up my new BHB 16 from rockford ill this sat they said i had to have break assist to take it off  the lot it was the law in Ill  then said they could install it for 325.00 so i just had my toyota dealer do install for 198.00 . toyota guy said he didnt have break assist eather so i began to wonder so i thought to ask you guys . Been waiting 2 months {thats 4 months in camping time} for my bhb to get build cant wait  thanks
Title: Re: electric brakes
Post by: rideandfly on October 21, 2015, 04:37:13 PM
Steve,

Congrats on your new Travel Trailer!!!!!!!!!!!

We need to see photos when you can post some!  :)
Title: Re: electric brakes
Post by: Paul on October 21, 2015, 04:49:23 PM
Congrats! Post pictures when you get your trailer!
Title: Re: electric brakes
Post by: DavidM on October 22, 2015, 09:08:43 AM
Steve:

You tow with a Tundra right? The curb weight is about 4,000 lbs. My personal rule of thumb is that if the trailer weighs more than 50% of the TV, then you need brakes. Here is some rough math. Most TVs stop at 0.8 Gs, ie 0.8*32 = 26 ft/s/s. With an additional 50% trailer weight with no brakes, the package will stop at about 17 ft/s/s. That difference might be enough to cause an accident.

Unless your friend tows his 21 with a commercial truck with a curb weight of about 8,000 lbs, he also needs trailer brakes.

David
Title: Re: electric brakes
Post by: Merlin on October 23, 2015, 09:55:35 AM
Absolutely use trailer brakes. Not every emergency stop is a nice straight line and trailer brakes will prevent jack-knifing. They also reduce wear on the tow vehicle brakes, reduce tow ehicle brake heat build-up going downhill, and use of the manual feature on the brake controller will control sway from a sudden manouver or wind blast.
Title: Re: electric brakes
Post by: steve441 on October 27, 2015, 12:40:31 PM
Just picked up my new 13 BHB 2016 from Sunny Island rv ,ILL , Keith was my sales guy , Nice Guy ! then drove back  with my electric  brakes ,worked  great !  Camped at Mark Twain camp ground in Hannibal mo . Great Camp ground  Amenities include a store , restaurant , Full hookups ,Two Caves, play grounds ,and a winery, yes a winery in the camp ground. Now i am in customizing mode
for the BHB , shelves, wine rack 7 in foam, rugs , exspresso machine, neon light, ext so i will be swithing to the modifcation page and post pictures thanks for your help
steve
Title: Re: electric brakes
Post by: Paul on October 27, 2015, 04:02:17 PM
Quote from: steve441 on October 27, 2015, 12:40:31 PM
Just picked up my new 13 BHB 2016 from Sunny Island rv ,ILL , Keith was my sales guy , Nice Guy ! then drove back  with my electric  brakes ,worked  great !  Camped at Mark Twain camp ground in Hannibal mo . Great Camp ground  Amenities include a store , restaurant , Full hookups ,Two Caves, play grounds ,and a winery, yes a winery in the camp ground. Now i am in customizing mode
for the BHB , shelves, wine rack 7 in foam, rugs , exspresso machine, neon light, ext so i will be swithing to the modifcation page and post pictures thanks for your help
steve

Congrats and looking forward to see your pictures!
Title: Re: electric brakes
Post by: rideandfly on October 27, 2015, 04:57:58 PM
Steve,

Congrats on your new 13BHB!!!!!!

Been talking to Keith about a Toy Hauler, but just talk so far!!!!

We stayed @ Mark Twain campground during September, nice campground!!!!

(http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu299/vstromklr/2015%20Camping%20Trip/IMG_8528_zpsnm7ur8tg.jpg) (http://s657.photobucket.com/user/vstromklr/media/2015%20Camping%20Trip/IMG_8528_zpsnm7ur8tg.jpg.html)

(http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu299/vstromklr/2015%20Camping%20Trip/IMG_8526_zpspoo6qc8s.jpg) (http://s657.photobucket.com/user/vstromklr/media/2015%20Camping%20Trip/IMG_8526_zpspoo6qc8s.jpg.html)

(http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu299/vstromklr/2015%20Camping%20Trip/IMG_8527_zpsitez3d1z.jpg) (http://s657.photobucket.com/user/vstromklr/media/2015%20Camping%20Trip/IMG_8527_zpsitez3d1z.jpg.html)
Title: Re: electric brakes
Post by: steve441 on October 28, 2015, 12:13:55 PM
I haven't stayed at mark twain state park yet . we stayed at mark twain cave and campground. this weekend we are staying at Babler state park in st Louis its a great park for a quick run to st Louis, st peters city rv park is great as well.
On the toyhaulers you might think of getting a price on ordering one just the way you want it option wise from livin lite . { if your in no hurry} that's what I did I paid $2000 less than the prices I was quoted on trailers around Mo . that's why I went to sunny island Keith Recommend that I might as well get exactly what I want instead of settling on close the only thing I wish that livin lite offered is
up grades on fans , appliances , on access panels I would of paid extra for them
Title: Re: electric brakes
Post by: rideandfly on October 28, 2015, 05:35:35 PM
My mistake on the campgrounds!

Thanks for the advice, no hurry here ordering the Toy Hauler! Plan to order probably from Keith.

Have a great camping trip!