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Camplite and Bearcat Modifications / Re: Door under bench
« on: April 05, 2021, 03:01:13 PM »
hm, I'm not sure why this post just showed up in my "unread posts" list when it's from last fall, but I just posted the below on another thread about under-dinette storage so maybe that's why??  Anyway, hope it might be helpful.


I don't know if it would work on the 21BHS dinette but on my 14DBS, AZCamper and I put in Ikea Sektion Maxmera 15" kitchen drawers.
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Closed:

We've only done one short trip with them and they haven't opened.  The soft close feature does make them harder to pull out, which I think helps the drawers stay in while traveling, but I'm looking around for something to add for a more positive "latch".  I focused on putting lighter things in the drawers too.

Though, if we ever end up driving through OK City on I-40, I will just plain save aggravation and take out the drawers and lay them on the bed!  Maybe the pots and pans above the fridge too!!  :o 

Here's our 14DBS dinette with the side cut out:

Sorry but I uploaded this photo from the other side of the dinette and am too lazy to go find the one matching the other pictures that I posted.  :D

anyway, hope this might give some ideas.

cheers

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Livin Lite General Discussion / Re: Dining seating
« on: April 05, 2021, 02:48:15 PM »
I don't know if it would work on the 21BHS dinette but on my 14DBS, AZCamper and I put in Ikea Sektion Maxmera 15" kitchen drawers.
Opened:


Closed:

We've only done one short trip with them and they haven't opened.  The soft close feature does make them harder to pull out, which I think helps the drawers stay in while traveling, but I'm looking around for something to add for a more positive "latch".  I focused on putting lighter things in the drawers too.

Though, if we ever end up driving through OK City on I-40, I will just plain save aggravation and take out the drawers and lay them on the bed!  Maybe the pots and pans above the fridge too!!  :o 

Here's our 14DBS dinette with the side cut out:

Sorry but I uploaded this photo from the other side of the dinette and am too lazy to go find the one matching the other pictures that I posted.  :D

anyway, hope this might give some ideas.

cheers

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Tow Vehicles / Re: Minivan as TV
« on: April 05, 2021, 12:52:26 PM »
I used to have an '05 Sienna XLE AWD and while I loved the vehicle, I don't think I'd want to really try to tow anything with it.  It's wonderful for moving people around but adding tongue weight to your cargo load as well as skis and clothing for five people (assuming the dog doesn't ski  ;D) and I bet you'll be overloaded.

Since the Sienna engineers put in a dial to lower/ raise the headlight height, I figured they weren't counting on the rear suspension to keep level when fully loaded.   :)

While we sold the Sienna a few years ago (amazingly got above blue book after 11 years because of all the features it had!), we recently bought a Sequoia for towing our CL 14DBS.  We had a '17 Jeep Cherokee that was -just- capable of towing the 14DBS but between problems the Jeep started having and not enough towing comfort margin, we decided to change.  I found the Sequoia to be happily quite a bit like the Sienna inside!  Window shades in the rear, dash config, how the seats work, the plethora of cup holders... 8)   ;D

If you do look for a Sequoia, I heartily recommend the Platinum trim level as it has rear air suspension that can help level out tongue weight.  Many of the towing reviews I read about the Sequoia complained about the rear sag but they were all testing the SR5 or TRD  trim level which do not have the rear air suspension.  The reviews also complained about how "old tech" and "out of date" the Sequoia is, but the used 2018 we bought has all the safety things like our Jeep did (blind spot, lane departure, etc) and having a tried-and-true engine and transmission were a huge selling point to me. 

For you with 3 kids, it may be a drawback that the Platinum only has captains chairs with console in the second row, so your third will always have to sit in the third row.  But, since I grew up sitting in the middle of a bench seat in a station wagon, I would've far preferred a third row so maybe that would work out for you. 

Before I tout the Sequoia too highly, I guess I should add that you should closely look at its cargo capacity and wheelbase to compare against your kids' future growth and possible trailer upsize.  Other possibilities for you might be a Ford Expedition Max, I think it's called, with a longer wheelbase or something specifically designed for towing.  Or the old standby Chevy Suburban 3/4 ton.  Both of these were too long to fit in our garage, along with every pickup I could find, so I didn't look at these too closely. 

whew, maybe TMI but hope this helps

cheers

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Welcome aboard!

Thanks, stu1965! 

We're going on our shakedown (and weighing the now full trailer) to a local park in early February-- hopefully it'll be warmer overnight then as this week the lows have been in the high 30s, horrors!   :o  For us Phoenicians that's like, 50 below or something  ;D

I'm waiting to post some pics of mods until after we've actually used the trailer and see that they actually work!   :)

cheers

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Great intro post and nice setup! I look forward to hearing of your adventures. Hopefully not too many more rest stop overnights  ;) Towing in LA rush hour must have been quite a rush. 55mph is a good towing speed many places, so I'm glad that worked well. I know exactly what you mean about being owned by a dog. I'm sure Zelda will keep you in line and properly trained.  ;D

Thanks, Merlin!  Oh, I see what you did there with "LA rush hour" and "quite a rush"   8) We hope for no more rest stop overnights!  It was definitely a godsend at the time, though.

Welcome to the forum. We also picked up a new to us 14DBS in Aug/Sept 2020...hope this next year allows more travel

Thanks, bcsnave!  We're planning a few trips this spring to a local park as shakedown runs.  Yes, and hoping too for more -- well, everything!   :) in 2021.

Welcome! Where in the Phoenix area are you located. We’re out near the end of the East valley by the Superstition Mountains. If you’re new to AZ, there are lots of great camping spots around the state, all with different elevations, terrain, and plant life.

Thanks, gbpack!  We are waaaay west of you over in the Peoria/Glendale area.  Lake Pleasant is a just a nice jaunt away up 99th Ave for us.  :)  We're definitely looking forward to camping around the state and hopefully more of the southwest soon.

cheers

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Member Introductions / Hi from Phoenix AZ with our new-to-us '17 CL 14DBS
« on: November 14, 2020, 09:59:54 AM »
Hi everybody!  AZcamper1 and I are the new proud owners of a 2017 LL Camplite 14DBS.  Oh, and we're owned by Zelda (Australian Cattle Dog).

We have camped and RV'ed for years.  I was going to say "for decades" but that made me feel really old  ;D .  We did the usual progression from tent /car camping up through Class A motorhome, detouring into horse and toy haulers along the way.  Now that we don't have horses or toys, we decided to go small so everything is easier: towing, parking, getting gas, fitting into sites, etc.  I had looked at LL toy haulers years ago, like, when they were still in business  :( but the stars never aligned. 

We saw this 14DBS come up for sale and it was just one state away :) so AZcamper1 talked to the seller and they turned out to be great and the trailer was great too so voila!  We had prepped a new ball mount and some basic overnight camping supplies so when the deal was done, we were ready to head home.  Two hours later, we had gone 60 miles  :o  .  Did I mention that we were trying to leave Los Angeles during rush hour?  :/  Anyway, we Escaped From LA and ended up spending the night at a rest area (8 hr overnight parking yay!).  No hookups and no slide extended, but it worked just as we thought so another yay.  Having to carefully step around the dog bed with the slide in made me glad that AZcamper1 convinced me that the slide was a "must". 

Our tow vehicle is a '17 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk V6 with factory tow package.  This gives us a 4500 tow capacity with 450 max tongue weight.  We got the Jeep when we still had the Class A MH and dirt bikes, so it could tow the bikes and be towed by the MH.  Not many choices of vehicles for those capabilities but the Jeep has worked out well.  In fact, the Jeep and this trailer worked GREAT together even on our get-it-home trip.  I'm not sure if it was in this forum or a Jeep forum, but using the Sport transmission mode made a HUGE difference in towing.  Using the normal Auto transmission with its eco-shift patterns and multiple overdrive gears was a big headache to manage even with our smaller 6x8 cargo trailer with the dirt bikes in it. 

So, with the Sport mode and no WDH (only required above 350 tongue weight), the 14DBS towed like a dream.  This was while following the 55 towing speed limit in CA with occasional forays into 65 to pass trucks.  It never got sucked over by trucks passing us and we could hardly tell it was there.    Ok, it was extremely minimally loaded but still, towing was great.  We weighed it empty at 244 tongue weight (disconnected) and 3000 trailer weight (not disconnected).  There was already a truck waiting behind us to weigh, and I didn't feel comfortable taking the time to disconnect to get proper weights.

AZcamper1 got a longer hitch ball mount with a better rise so now the tailgate can open past the electric jack and when we get the trailer loaded, it should be nice and level. 

Now we're onto the loading stage of what goes where, and the wow-look-at-this-mod-here on this forum   ;D.  So very glad we found this forum and everyone who is so kind to share their knowledge! 

cheers

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